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Things I liked:

- I thought Benedict Cumberbatch did a good job as the Eleventh Doctor Sherlock Holmes, although I couldn't stop thinking about how small his eyes are. I enjoyed the fact that, despite all of his cleverness, in the end Sherlock was powerless in the face of his need to (1) solve the mystery, and (2) prove his cleverness.

- There was some actual queer representation in this wasn't there (I mean, aside from all the Holmes/Watson jokes)? I wasn't paying much attention at this point but wasn't the implication that Harr(iet) was married to a woman?

- I had thought that there were more things but now I can't think of any. I laughed at most of the jokes.

Things I didn't like:

- I thought it was problematic that Watson was depicted as having a limp and a tremor which were both written off as (and turned out to be) "psychosomatic" -- which were treated as physical metaphors for his boredom and detachment from life since leaving the army and which were cast off once he got some 'excitement'.

- I found the reveal that the serial killer was a cab driver really frustratingly slow. This is something which I believe they lifted from the book (A Study in Scarlet) which I don't think worked particularly well as a twist for a day and age in which people are taught that every cab driver is a potential serial killer or rapist anyway. Wasn't this also the twist in an episode of Criminal Minds or Torchwood or something like that?

- "You never see these marks on a sober man's phone, and you never see a drunk man's phone without them." Ugh, this line was so obnoxious. If I remember correctly, this was said with regard to a set of keys in the book -- and that makes sense, because in order to get inside your house you have to use your keys; on the other hand, not everyone would bother to plug their phone into its charger before passing out on the bed (in fact, I think most people wouldn't; I certainly never do). While I'm talking about things which were totally obnoxious, I didn't like the text overlays which explained all of Sherlock's deductions -- what was the point, when he explained them all afterwards anyway?

- I thought the nicotine patches thing was really stupid. Like, really, profoundly stupid.

Things I'm not sure about:

- Wait, Sherlock is canonically a sociopath in this version? I'm not entirely sure what to do with that.

- I do think that there are elements of Rory to John (I don't know why it feels weirder to type that than to type 'Sherlock'). He's kind of like a 'hardened' Rory. We'll see.

Date: 2010-07-31 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorandme.livejournal.com
I just finished watching this and I think, overall, I liked it - a lot, actually - but I also agree with some of the things you've said here. Esp. the whole "cab driver as the murderer" thing, I haven't read the books since I was ~13, so I don't remember them that well, but if you say that it's lifted from the book, I'll trust you. Anyway, what bothered me was that Sherlock, who's a genius, wouldn't bother to even check the driver, or suspect him, when they first saw the taxi cab. I know it's for tv and they wanted the chase through the streets ending in disappointment ('cause it was to early to solve the case), but it's an annoying plot hole - as you say, today we're taught that taxi drivers are potentially dangerous, so why didn't Sherlock (or Watson) think of that?

I remember the keys thing from the book (it's something that stuck with me for some reason, since I read it, I try really hard not to scratch anything with my keys) and I agree that it didn't translate well to the phone charger.

And yes, Harry was actually Watson's sister, Harriet (I quite enjoyed that reveal), I'm not sure they said she was married, but she was at the very least in a relationship with a woman (or had been).

Other things: Benedict Cumberbatch is the best name ever and I can never decide if I like Martin Freeman or not. On one hand, he's just an average guy and that's nice, on the other he's made it his career to play every average guy ever (Arthur Dent!) which annoys me - but I think I like him as Watson...

Date: 2010-07-31 03:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] penumbra.livejournal.com
I don't know if you should trust me. It's been a really long time since I read the books too; everything I remember about Sherlock Holmes plots just sloshes around in my head -- that might not have been the twist to A Study in Scarlet, it might have been the twist to a completely different book, or to a film, or, like, Basil the Great Mouse Detective or anything.

To be fair to the writing, I think that Sherlock did suspect the taxi driver but didn't realise he did: he had that line "A taxi cab -- that's clever. Is that clever? Why's that clever?" like he was almost there but didn't quite get it. That's another writing tic of Steven Moffat's which actually threw me out of the story a little bit because it reminded me too much of the kind of dialogue he writes for Doctor Who (which you really should watch, by the way). The eventual realisation was painfully slow, though; there was no reason why it had to be quite so drawn out.

LOL, Benedict Cumberbatch is indeed the best name ever. I was talking about Sherlock a few weeks ago with [livejournal.com profile] radioreverie and she was like, "Who's in it?" and I was like, "I don't even know. Let me see. Benedict Cumberbatch -- I have no idea who that is but he's got the best name ever."

I can never decide if I like Martin Freeman or not. On one hand, he's just an average guy and that's nice, on the other he's made it his career to play every average guy ever (Arthur Dent!) which annoys me - but I think I like him as Watson...
He's a bit less pathetic as Watson -- he does always play the everyman but at least he wasn't the bumbling everyman here; he got to be a crack shot and save Sherlock from himself in the end.

(I love that everyone is like "Sherlock and Watson" and it's not just me.)

Date: 2010-08-01 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorandme.livejournal.com
he had that line "A taxi cab -- that's clever. Is that clever? Why's that clever?" like he was almost there but didn't quite get it.
yeah, that line made me think that he did suspect the taxi driver at first, so I was surprised when Sherlock stopped the cab and then dismissed everything when it turned out that the passenger had recently arrived from LAX, I thought I'd missed something. Guess that's why it just felt so odd to me.

(I will watch Doctor Who, any day now... It's ok to start with the eleventh doctor, right?)

I had to check Benedict Cumberbatch out on imdb, because he looked so familiar but I couldn't place him... Anyway, turns out I've seen him in a lot of different things, Marple, Atonement and The Other Boleyn Girl - probably without noticing his name (because it is definitely the kind of name you would remember). He's creepy as f*ck in Atonement, but I really like his Sherlock here (hah, he really does have small eyes though).

he got to be a crack shot and save Sherlock from himself in the end.
Yes, I really liked that. Actually, I found the ending very cute (I might even have giggled a little) and I don't want to ship it, but I might just have been doing it anyway...

(Oh, I thought about that right before I clicked the "post comment" button, but I didn't really feel like changing it. I guess it should either be "Sherlock and John" or "Holmes and Watson", but neither feels right. However, when you say "Sherlock and Watson", it's instantly recognisable. And, you know, Sherlock is another great name.)

Date: 2010-08-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
ext_34962: (Amy & Tardis)
From: [identity profile] penumbra.livejournal.com
yeah, that line made me think that he did suspect the taxi driver at first, so I was surprised when Sherlock stopped the cab and then dismissed everything when it turned out that the passenger had recently arrived from LAX, I thought I'd missed something. Guess that's why it just felt so odd to me.
Yeah, the writing was a bit tortured. I felt like I was missing something there too and then I was like, "Sherlock, why are you dumber than me?"

(I will watch Doctor Who, any day now... It's ok to start with the eleventh doctor, right?)
I encourage you to start with the Eleventh Doctor. I said this to everyone and they all went back and watched it from the Ninth Doctor anyway and pretty much all of them were like, "Yeah, I probably should have just started with 'The Eleventh Hour'." Like, I really liked Christopher Eccleston but there are maybe a handful of episodes from the Russell T Davies era that I really enjoyed.

I haven't seen Benedict Cumberbatch in anything, actually. I didn't watch Atonement so he was a complete unknown to me.

I don't want to ship it, but I might just have been doing it anyway...
I don't ship it, but that's all right because I don't think that I can ship people that I'm not attracted to (and I'm not attracted to either of them).

Date: 2010-08-01 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorandme.livejournal.com
"Sherlock, why are you dumber than me?"
yes, exactly!

I encourage you to start with the Eleventh Doctor.
Ah, good, that's only one season, which is nice and won't take too long to watch. I think I've been spoiled through FandomSecrets, because I don't avoid the Doctor Who secrets (like I should have), but there's not really any context to what I know anyway...

Atonement is actually pretty good, I'd recommend it if you like that genre of movies (drama, romance, WWII). I'm not a big fan of Keira Knightley
but she's bearable here and James McAvoy is amazing. Of course, the book is better.

I don't think that I can ship people that I'm not attracted to
I understand that, and I think that it usually applies to me as well, but there was something here, I don't know... I don't think I can say anything for sure until I've seen a few more episodes anyway.

Date: 2010-08-01 05:58 pm (UTC)
ext_34962: (Amy Pond (sail on shooting stars))
From: [identity profile] penumbra.livejournal.com
Ah, good, that's only one season, which is nice and won't take too long to watch. I think I've been spoiled through FandomSecrets, because I don't avoid the Doctor Who secrets (like I should have), but there's not really any context to what I know anyway...
If I remember correctly, almost all of the Doctor Who secrets since the new series started have fallen into one of the following categories:

- Matt Smith should kill himself; nobody is worthy of taking over from David Tennant.
- I hate that it's now acceptable to hate on David Tennant; Matt Smith fans are terrible people.[*]
- Amy is a fucking slut and an insult to all women everywhere and if you like her you're a terrible person.
- I love Rory more than any character on Doctor Who/Rory deserves better than Amy/Amy should be killed off and Rory should be a full-time companion.
- (I love Amy and I don't understand why people hate her. But I still love Rory! Rory is the best! Everyone should love Rory!)

*: I don't think I've ever actually seen a David Tennant hate secret, so these ones just crack me up.

Date: 2010-08-01 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorandme.livejournal.com
hah, yes, that's pretty much it. even if it get around to watching the series, i don't think i'll ever join the fandom - the doctor who fandom scares me more than the one for supernatural.

Also, I have been meaning to watch Atonement. I'll get around to it eventually...
i find, that even if you don't like the movie, you can enjoy the direction and setting - it's a very beautiful film. oh, and then there's the amazing green dress...

Date: 2010-08-01 05:59 pm (UTC)
ext_34962: ("Girl on a Red Carpet")
From: [identity profile] penumbra.livejournal.com
Also, I have been meaning to watch Atonement. I'll get around to it eventually...

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